Raffy's WFO Build

[ebramirez]

Re: Raffy's WFO Build

Thanks Raffy.

I am trying to figure out where to locate it in our house in Valle. The best location is against the perimeter corner wall, but I am not sure about the setback requirements. Maybe it can be considered just part of landscaping.

Btw, do u mind if I ask how much u spent? I am talking to a small contractor to build it after I finalize size and location. I will put a tile roof (i have spare tiles), just so there's less chance of sparks flying and so it doesn't get so wet. I'll also include a side table, which you need actually. I am planning to make the oven 30-32 inches. I hope this is big enough to roast a small pig. I've cooked lechon a few times in our 30inch gas oven.

I bought a big tarp for our oven in tali to prepare for rainy season. It has a roof, but rain there flies horizontally. The clay oven was so cheap to build. I spent only about 8-9kpesos on it, including the base and the gi roof. I had left over materials from our house build and labor was done by us and our gardener. If I fire it long enough (1-1.5 hours). Floor temp gets up to 900F and the pizzas take 2 minutes. I've tried using bagasse (my friend grows sugar and makes muscovado) to fire the oven but it's really not ideal. It burns too fast and has a lot of residue which actually hampers airflow. It works well, I get slightly worried though when I bump the walls with the bakers peel.

I wanted to ask, are you required to have your chimney so high?

Paella in the oven, I will try sometime. Lechon is actually next on my agenda.

Tx!

[Eric Pfeifer]

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Very impressive! Just the motivation I need to finish! Thank you!

Eric Pfeifer

[Tscarborough]

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"bagasse"

You do not hear that word often.

[ebramirez]

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I had to check whether I spelled it right!

My friend grows sugarcane and makes muscovado (unrefined sugar) right on his farm. It's basically boiled cane juice, reduced then crushed to a powder. It's really quite good. He sells everything just based on word of mouth. Tastewise, for me its closer to real maple syrup than brown sugar. Freshly squeezed cane juice on ice is worth trying if you ever get the chance.

Anyway, he uses the bagasse to fire his kiln. He gave me a pickup truck's worth. But it doesn't work so well in the wfo. I use it now for bonfires and outdoor grilling.

[lwood]

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"bagasse" - milled white rice, that's what bagasse is here in Bikol. You tried to burn bagasse? I've seen rice hulls (ata) burned very effectively, but not in a WFO

[ebramirez]

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hey there lwood. i've never been to bicol

It sounds the same, but:

bagasse = crushed cane stalks. burns fast with an pleasant caramel smell. but if use a lot, leaves black soot on wfo floor and there's a lot of residue which chokes the rest of the wood in my small oven. might be ok in a bigger oven. small amount is ok kindling

bigas = milled rice, definitely not fuel. (unmilled rice including hull = palay)

rice hulls = ipa. i've never tried burning this, though i've heard people use it for pottery

what do you do in bicol, if i may ask?

anyway, if you (or Raffy) are in the Fort (High Street) area in Manila, let me know and I'll treat u guys for lunch or coffee in exchange for construction pointers.

cheers

[lwood]

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Bikol is definitely a different language. Palay I recognize but never ipa. Rice hulls are burnt here also for things like a kiln or boiler or to dry things like at the place where I get my perlite. They dry the perlite before shipping for construction purposes. The drier is interesting because it uses these rice hulls to heat the perlite. The rice hulls are in a large hopper with a 4" gap at the bottom and they light the rice hulls at the bottom of the hopper. As they burn the rice hulls in the hopper feed the fire. Don't know how you would do it in an WFO.

My wife and I are retired from the states and we are developing a property near Naga, at the base of Mt Isarog, Malabsay Falls.

Yeah, let's all get together sometime.

[lwood]

Re: Raffy's WFO Build

Bikol is definitely a different language. Palay I recognize but never ipa. Rice hulls are burnt here also for things like a kiln or boiler or to dry things like at the place where I get my perlite. They dry the perlite before shipping for construction purposes. The drier is interesting because it uses these rice hulls to heat the perlite. The rice hulls are in a large hopper with a 4" gap at the bottom and they light the rice hulls at the bottom of the hopper. As they burn the rice hulls in the hopper feed the fire. Don't know how you would do it in an WFO.

My wife and I are retired from the states and we are developing a property near Naga, at the base of Mt Isarog, Malabsay Falls.

Yeah, let's all get together sometime.

John

[Raffy]

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Thanks Raffy.

I am trying to figure out where to locate it in our house in Valle. The best location is against the perimeter corner wall, but I am not sure about the setback requirements. Maybe it can be considered just part of landscaping.

Btw, do u mind if I ask how much u spent? I am talking to a small contractor to build it after I finalize size and location. I will put a tile roof (i have spare tiles), just so there's less chance of sparks flying and so it doesn't get so wet. I'll also include a side table, which you need actually. I am planning to make the oven 30-32 inches. I hope this is big enough to roast a small pig. I've cooked lechon a few times in our 30inch gas oven.

I bought a big tarp for our oven in tali to prepare for rainy season. It has a roof, but rain there flies horizontally. The clay oven was so cheap to build. I spent only about 8-9kpesos on it, including the base and the gi roof. I had left over materials from our house build and labor was done by us and our gardener. If I fire it long enough (1-1.5 hours). Floor temp gets up to 900F and the pizzas take 2 minutes. I've tried using bagasse (my friend grows sugar and makes muscovado) to fire the oven but it's really not ideal. It burns too fast and has a lot of residue which actually hampers airflow. It works well, I get slightly worried though when I bump the walls with the bakers peel.

I wanted to ask, are you required to have your chimney so high?

Paella in the oven, I will try sometime. Lechon is actually next on my agenda.

Tx!

Sorry for the delayed reply. I have been busy lately and haven't checked the forum in a while. I needed a high chimney cause you have to be 2 feet above any structure that is within 10 feet of the oven. This is for fire safety reasons plus I didn't want the neighbors complaining to the village association about the smoke. Hehehehe

Raffy

[Raffy]

John & Nanette Drop by for a Visit

John and his lovely wife Nanette drop by the house for a couple of pizzas. Hope you guys enjoyed! Nanette was taking the photo that's why she wasn't in it hehehe

John was making a pizza it was gone before we could take a pic hehehe

[lwood]

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We had a great day with you and your lovely family, Raffy. Thanks for all your help. Raffy introduced us to a Italian food supplier that will knock your socks off and some used/new restaurant equipment suppliers too. Then proceeded to take us back to his place to meet his family. His parents were in from Canada and a bunch of sisters/sister-in-laws showed up for a baby shower. My wife had a great time cackling with the girls and tell your mom Nanette loves her. Thanks for a great day, and the pizza was great too.

[Raffy]

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Glad to hear it, John. Oh BTW, can you post the pics for the firewood supplier. I'm sure the forum members would get a kick out of it.

[Raffy]

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The day that John and Nanette came over for some pizza, John and I noticed that the oven dome cleared in less than 40 minutes. To test the floor, John scattered some semolina flour on the cooking floor and it confirmed that the oven was up to temp to cook. To say the least, I am very pleased with the oven's latest performance. I had just covered up the bald spot on top which I left open for steam to escape. I assume this greatly improved the oven's heat retention and efficiency.

The charring underneath the pizza was perfect. We were in pizza heaven. Even roasting the vegetables and chicken was a breeze. Everything came out absolutely perfect. I'm loving the oven even more each time I use it.

[lwood]

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Here is a picture of Raffy's wood supplier in Manila.

[lwood]

Re: Raffy's WFO Build

Definitely Pizza heaven Raffy, your oven was performing like a champ.