Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

[gugahulk]

Re: Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

I think if you screw 2x4 pieces from above thru the ply and have the 2x4 pieces below at the locations in photo you will be good to go.

Sorry about the bad markup, I hope you see what I was going for.

Chip, actually that looks alot larger than it is on the live. I guess the light shinning tru makes it look like a huge gap. But your idea is a good, one. I have no more 2x4 and I would have to remove it all do to this. I don't think I will be able to so it. and I am hoping it will survive the pour. That thing is solid.

[gugahulk]

Re: Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

Those (I'm guessing 24" to 30"" spans on either side of your brick stand will bow under the weight of wet concrete.

I actually stood on top of the form yesterday and jumped on it. I weight 215lbs and all ok. So I am hopping it will survive the concrete murder pour!

[mrchipster]

Re: Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

Those (I'm guessing 24" to 30"" spans on either side of your brick stand will bow under the weight of wet concrete.

I think if you screw 2x4 pieces from above thru the ply and have the 2x4 pieces below at the locations in photo you will be good to go.

Sorry about the bad markup, I hope you see what I was going for.

[Gulf]

Re: Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

Those (I'm guessing 24" to 30"" spans on either side of your brick stand will bow under the weight of wet concrete.

[gugahulk]

Re: Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

Hello

You may consider some supports under the center of the form. It looks like it is a wide span.
2 x 4 flat with 2 x 4 supports front middle and back should be enough, with wedges.
Better too much support.

Good luck with the pour. Have some cold ones ready for when it is done.

David

Thanks David, I actually have them, see pictures below, this is what you mean? These are pictures looking from the floor up to the top on side, middle and other side. Thanks for your advice on everything. About the Cold ones, you bet! I actually have 2 cases for me and my friends ready to celebrate!

[DavidApp]

Re: Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

Hello

You may consider some supports under the center of the form. It looks like it is a wide span.
2 x 4 flat with 2 x 4 supports front middle and back should be enough, with wedges.
Better too much support.

Good luck with the pour. Have some cold ones ready for when it is done.

David

[mrchipster]

Re: Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

Thanks Chip, you just boosted my confidence. I always doubt myself. Any coments on the oil? I was planning on using pan cooking spray.

Regarding oil on forms, a light coat of spray on inside of wood only, will help you get forms off.

[gugahulk]

Re: Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

That will clearly stay put and hold up any size oven you decide to place on it.

Good work. But then again we have all seen your other beautiful builds.

Thanks Chip, you just boosted my confidence. I always doubt myself. Any coments on the oil? I was planning on using pan cooking spray.

[mrchipster]

Re: Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

That will clearly stay put and hold up any size oven you decide to place on it.

Good work. But then again we have all seen your other beautiful builds.

[gugahulk]

Re: Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

Guys I must say, I did not expect you guys to help me so much. I can not thank you enough, Chip, David and everyone else please I am very grateful for all your comments and advice. Love to have you guys here in Miami one day!

I have completed everything I think it is all correct. I below are pictures of it ready to go. Please let me know if I did anything wrong and if there is any other advice you can give me. The BIG POUR will be thursday and all schedule up with my buddies to give me a hand. Chip I am getting extra bags of concrete just in case as I previously ran out on other projects and I don't want to run out on this one.

Chip what type of oil should I use on the boards to release it easily, can I use cooking spray on the plastic & board. I follow your advice one plastic as you will be able to see on the images below.

Once again thanks guys, please see image below, all comments are welcome.

[DavidApp]

Re: Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

Hello

Here is a photo of the wedges I used. I cut them as I needed.

David

[mrchipster]

Re: Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

Your idea of covering things up is a great one. Thanks for that and I will... I will try to not make it as soupy, but workable as you mention. About the fence no, it will not be against the fence I ran out of 2x4 and did not do the back part yet. I plan on doing that tonight.

About the reinforcement, yes, yes and yes. I will be putting 10, 10 feet number 5 bars and 10, 10 feet number 3 bars. I think its too much but I guess in these case the more steel inside the better right? I will post some photos as soon as I get it ready for the pour.

Thanks for the advice.

Number 5 is overkill in the slab and much more difficult to bend. #4 is perfect for this setup and will suit you well. When bending I use two pieces of pipe and bend where they meet about 2 ft long each. Bends for your corners join in center. Make sure you raise rebar into center of thickness. No closer than 2 inches to top of slab. You can purchase "chairs" at the hardware store to hold the rebar up. They are plastic or wire.

Wire your rebar ends together. Overlap at least 6 inches
Wire your rebar grid together.
Do not let rebar get closer than 2 inches from the outside edge.
Oil your forms so they release easily spray oil works well or wipe with oil damped rag.

Make sure you have plenty of sack concrete mix.
You want to keep pouring into wet area and not stop until you are done filling.

Have a place to dump extra wet concrete a cheap plastic tarp laid on a hard surface like a piece of plywood, works well. You can grab extra from the tarp if needed and when the trowel work is done you can let the concrete set up for disposal.

Divide wet waste concrete into manageable piles for easier disposal when set up.

[gugahulk]

Re: Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

I don't think an expansion joint would hurt there, but it really is not needed. You will end up w/a very small shrinkage crack there after a bit. Wait a few weeks, then if it bothers you, simply use some masonry caulk on it. Another thing I would ask is, are you planning on pouring right up against the fence? Also, I highly recommend covering things up (such as the fence, brickwork, etc.) w/some plastic before you pour, as it (concrete) can get a bit messy and splatter things. Try not to get your concrete too soupy, if possible, as the wetter it is, the weaker it becomes. Use enough water to make it workable, but not soupy. When I pour concrete, after it hardens up a bit, and am done for the day, I cover it w/plastic and then a layer of cardboard, to help retain the moisture in the slab as long as possible, which also increases it's strength. Do you plan to use reinforcement?

Your idea of covering things up is a great one. Thanks for that and I will... I will try to not make it as soupy, but workable as you mention. About the fence no, it will not be against the fence I ran out of 2x4 and did not do the back part yet. I plan on doing that tonight.

About the reinforcement, yes, yes and yes. I will be putting 10, 10 feet number 5 bars and 10, 10 feet number 3 bars. I think its too much but I guess in these case the more steel inside the better right? I will post some photos as soon as I get it ready for the pour.

Thanks for the advice.

[NCMan]

Re: Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

I don't think an expansion joint would hurt there, but it really is not needed. You will end up w/a very small shrinkage crack there after a bit. Wait a few weeks, then if it bothers you, simply use some masonry caulk on it. Another thing I would ask is, are you planning on pouring right up against the fence? Also, I highly recommend covering things up (such as the fence, brickwork, etc.) w/some plastic before you pour, as it (concrete) can get a bit messy and splatter things. Try not to get your concrete too soupy, if possible, as the wetter it is, the weaker it becomes. Use enough water to make it workable, but not soupy. When I pour concrete, after it hardens up a bit, and am done for the day, I cover it w/plastic and then a layer of cardboard, to help retain the moisture in the slab as long as possible, which also increases it's strength. Do you plan to use reinforcement?

[gugahulk]

Re: Work of Love and Passion... Miami FL

Exactly, used at bottom of support post used in pairs thin edges overlapping each other to preserve a constant thickness (no slope) on the support.

Ok I will try this tonight and send some pictures.