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  • mfiore
    Master Builder
    • Oct 2007
    • 919

    #361
    Re: Michigan WFO

    It doesn't look promising, Daren. You? I'm really discouraged with this weather. I just need a few good days off. Every day off rains or is cold. I hate looking out the window from work at warm sunshine.
    Mike - Saginaw, MI

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    • dbhansen
      Master Builder
      • Jun 2007
      • 566

      #362
      Re: Michigan WFO

      I'm in the same boat, man. Just a nice day or two and I can get the roof tiles on. It's probably too cold to finish the stucco anymore. They say it might snow on Saturday!
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      • mfiore
        Master Builder
        • Oct 2007
        • 919

        #363
        Re: Michigan WFO

        What temps are safe to stucco? How about brick, stone, and mortar?
        Mike - Saginaw, MI

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        • ThisOldGarageNJ
          Il Pizzaiolo
          • Mar 2009
          • 1436

          #364
          Re: Michigan WFO

          Quikrete surface bonding cement (stucco) will withstand up to 300 degrees farenheit acoording to their help line... Hope this helps,, It is also a one coat process

          Cheers
          Mark

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          • KINGRIUS
            Apprentice
            • Aug 2009
            • 113

            #365
            Re: Michigan WFO

            Surewall surface bonding cement- Do not apply below 40 degrees or above 90 degrees. http://www.resarch.com/bonsalamerica...s/SURFACEB.PDF

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            • mfiore
              Master Builder
              • Oct 2007
              • 919

              #366
              Re: Michigan WFO

              I am mortaring stone veneer. What do you think if I put it on during the day (temps above 40 degrees), but it drops into the 30's at night?
              Mike - Saginaw, MI

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              • ThisOldGarageNJ
                Il Pizzaiolo
                • Mar 2009
                • 1436

                #367
                Re: Michigan WFO

                on our Help Line at 1-800-282-5828 to inquire about specific QUIKRETE? products and where to buy them, order product literature or obtain expert advice on concrete projects.
                Here is the number for quikrete,,, they are very helpful and Im sure they can answer that question if someone here cant

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                • dbhansen
                  Master Builder
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 566

                  #368
                  Re: Michigan WFO

                  I know the Quikrete surface bonding cement that I'm using says not to use it if the temps fall below 40 within 24 hours.
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                  • mfiore
                    Master Builder
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 919

                    #369
                    Re: Michigan WFO

                    Do you think it helps if I use warm water to mix the mortar? (Can't blame a guy for trying)
                    Mike - Saginaw, MI

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                    • Lars
                      Journeyman
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 261

                      #370
                      Re: Michigan WFO

                      I would hold off on mortaring if you know you will have a freeze. I am REALLY hoping for an indian summer, so just wait a few days!
                      This may not be my last wood oven...

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                      • ThisOldGarageNJ
                        Il Pizzaiolo
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1436

                        #371
                        Re: Michigan WFO

                        You can always build a plastic tent and use a space heater.....

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                        • Spunkoid
                          Apprentice
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 109

                          #372
                          Re: Michigan WFO

                          Patience, it will warm up. We are freezing our butts off here in southern Alberta, no one remembers it to have been this cold this early. I am still trying to get my forno framed in, not stucco for me this year though.

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                          • mfiore
                            Master Builder
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 919

                            #373
                            Re: Michigan WFO

                            Well, If I could offer some advice, it's to follow other people's advice!

                            I searched hard to find the answers I wanted to hear. The Quickrete 1800 number said the temps needed to be above 50 for 24 hours after using. The mix I'm using, though, is Pakmix Stone Veneer mortar. This mix said to use only if temps are greater than 40 and rising.

                            On Saturday, as soon as it hit 40, I started to put up some stone. I thought if I had a nice warm fire that could radiate some heat, then cover at night with a tarp, the walls might stay toasty. Too much damn insulation! The walls never get warm. I quit mid afternoon when the temps started dropping again. I definitely noticed a difference. The mortar did not stick well. That evening, two stone dropped (temps went into the 20's!!). I think it was a mistake. I hope to have a few nice days yet to wrap up the stone work. I'll focus on the roof until then.
                            Mike - Saginaw, MI

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                            • mfiore
                              Master Builder
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 919

                              #374
                              Re: Michigan WFO

                              I put some decorative brick down (Old Detroit Brick) as an entrance to the oven. Thanks for the ideas, Daren. I'm a total hack!
                              Mike - Saginaw, MI

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                              • jmhepworth
                                Journeyman
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 293

                                #375
                                Re: Michigan WFO

                                The stone work looks really nice. That's what we're hoping to do with ours.

                                Joe
                                Joe

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