Wood Fired Beehive in Utah

[UtahBeehiver]

Re: Wood Fired Beehive in Utah

Felix,

Here's a PDF. I ordered my FoamGlas from EJ Bartells local but I think they have offices throughout the western US and ship as well. ANH probably carries it as well.

[felix]

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Thanks Russell,

Did you get your Cal Sil board through EJ Bartells also?

Carl

[UtahBeehiver]

Re: Wood Fired Beehive in Utah

Yes, ThermoGold 12

[Campmaki]

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Russel, your copper cladding looks absolutely amazing, all I can say is WOW!!!!!Wayne

[felix]

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Russell,

I appreciate your willingness to revisit the past -- concerning your build... I know your thread spurred on quite a discussion about the stability of the outer arches and if that section (entry/smoke chamber) should be built on CalSil board or Insulated Fire Brick or directly on the concrete. I can't tell for sure from the pictures, but it appears you ended up building directly up from the concrete hearth. Is that correct? Would you be willing to elaborate on why you did what you did? Would you do it another way now that you have been through it? Thanks for your thoughts. Carl

[UtahBeehiver]

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felix
Sorry for the delay. I am out of the US right now. But quick answer everything sits on the foamglas/ca si board except a small 1" firebrick veneer on the front and side of the vent area.

[csmeutah]

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so for a corner 42" build can I use the same pad size as per the manual? we are landscaping and I want to get the pad poured with some other concrete work we are doing. You still recommend a 5 1/2 inch pad yes?

[UtahBeehiver]

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Im out of the US will get you my base dimensions Tues. 5.5" with 8-10 " crushed gravel underneath.

[felix]

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felix
Sorry for the delay. I am out of the US right now. But quick answer everything sits on the foamglas/ca si board except a small 1" firebrick veneer on the front and side of the vent area.

I thought you had been pretty quiet! When you get back if you would have a moment to direct me to a photo that would show this, it would be great.

Happy travels!

[UtahBeehiver]

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Felix,

First pic show oven floor/chimney/vent on FoamGlas and CaSi. Second pic. show 1" fire brick veneer in front. Look lower right corner. I did have to cut back the insulation the depth of the veneer. Will get in my files tonight on pad dimension.

[felix]

Re: Wood Fired Beehive in Utah

Felix,

First pic show oven floor/chimney/vent on FoamGlas and CaSi. Second pic. show 1" fire brick veneer in front. Look lower right corner. I did have to cut back the insulation the depth of the veneer. Will get in my files tonight on pad dimension.

Thanks for illustrating exactly what I was wondering about. There was a lengthy discussion early during your build about building the vent area on the insulating layer or not.

I assume you have been satisfied with the course of action taken?

Again, this was much appreciated!

[UtahBeehiver]

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FYI,

I also have thermal breaks on the inner arch and vent arch and the floor btw the inner arch and vent area. I installed a SS chimney so the overall weight is substantially less that a masonry or clay chimney. There is one build out there where the builder did a static test of stacking firebricks on a piece of foamglas to test the compression strength and I think he had 6-7 feet of brick stack on the insulation with no issues. I have not had any issues with my build. You do need to isolate the dome and inner arch from touching the concrete hearth or the hearth will act like a heat sink.

http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/8/im...tml#post118499

[UtahBeehiver]

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CSME,

My concrete pad dimensions for a 42" igloo are 86" long sides, 55.5" short sides with about 44" across the front of the oven on a 45 deg angle. This allows for a 4" lip all the way around for stone work. My igloo with all the insulation and final cover goes right to the edge of the concrete hearth (not base).

[csmeutah]

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perfect! thanks.

[the_dr_masuess]

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Salt Lake Area builders, I was at Restore on 500 W 1300 S today 7/25/14. They have a pallet of insulating fire brick plus two bags of refractory mortar. They want $2 each for the insulating brick not sure what they want for the mortar. I was going to buy the whole lot but my man cave cannot handle anymore stuff. The IFB is a great option for floor insulation vs CaSi or V or Pcrete. If it works for you act quickly though. This is over half off what you could get insulating bricks for. Note: IFB are not suitable for the dome, only under the floor fire brick.

If I wasn't going out of town tomorrow I'd go pick it up tomorrow but oh well.