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  • mikku
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    I don't have handles even attached yet--only the stainless angle piece as shown. This does not get hot enough to require special gloves. I got a block of keyaki to make handles but have not gotten around to make them yet.

    I don't have any current photos of the door, it is now soot stained from use. Mine has ceramic fiber sandwiched inside, maybe it is shown in a previous post but I forget.

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  • pikemonkey
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    Originally posted by mikku View Post
    Nice job with the doors and tools. you have a lot of talent working with metals. I went to a woodstove shop and bought rope designed as a seal for wood stove doors. Also bought some adhesive for gluing it around the perimeter of the door. So far it has worked great! Put it on sometime last year and shows no sign of wear or deterioration. The rope comes in a variety of sizes, don't remember what size I chose but it was pretty inexpensive--about $9.00 per meter. The cement was air set/heat set adhesive black good for temperatures up to 2000 F. My door looks like yours, has ceramic fiber inside but only about 2" thick. I still can remove the door without special gloves when the oven is 300+C.

    Thanks for your comments. Closer up they're not perfect, but functional.

    I have done similar as you describe with the rope seal and black adhesive.
    The larger diameter stuff is twisted stove rope, but a!so has another set of strands wrapping around it to keep it all together. It is this that has broken down, causing the rope to fray everywhere. It should be good for 500 degC, but I might try some thinner stuff without the wrapping, or stove tape.

    Not needing special gloves to remove my door but the handles fitted are too small to get a good grip. Thinking of buying a couple of cheap brick trowels and using the handles from them so they are open at the bottom if you get my drift.

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  • stonecutter
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    Originally posted by mikku View Post
    Nice job with the doors and tools. you have a lot of talent working with metals. I went to a woodstove shop and bought rope designed as a seal for wood stove doors. Also bought some adhesive for gluing it around the perimeter of the door. So far it has worked great! Put it on sometime last year and shows no sign of wear or deterioration. The rope comes in a variety of sizes, don't remember what size I chose but it was pretty inexpensive--about $9.00 per meter. The cement was air set/heat set adhesive black good for temperatures up to 2000 F. My door looks like yours, has ceramic fiber inside but only about 2" thick. I still can remove the door without special gloves when the oven is 300+C.
    I used ceramic rope to fill the thermal breaks on my oven, then painted a slurry of Portland and acryl 60 to encapsulate the fibers. I don't think it will ever break down, the vent area never gets hot enough where the rope is.

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  • mikku
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    Nice job with the doors and tools. you have a lot of talent working with metals. I went to a woodstove shop and bought rope designed as a seal for wood stove doors. Also bought some adhesive for gluing it around the perimeter of the door. So far it has worked great! Put it on sometime last year and shows no sign of wear or deterioration. The rope comes in a variety of sizes, don't remember what size I chose but it was pretty inexpensive--about $9.00 per meter. The cement was air set/heat set adhesive black good for temperatures up to 2000 F. My door looks like yours, has ceramic fiber inside but only about 2" thick. I still can remove the door without special gloves when the oven is 300+C.

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  • stonecutter
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    I like that rake!

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  • pikemonkey
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    Made mine from stainless steel.
    It's a 3 1/2 inch thick shell, now packed with calsil and vermiculite and backed with some old T+G oak floor boards.


    Also managed to make a couple of peels, an ember rake, and a bracket for a wire broom.

    the handles are all interchangeable, and can be screwed into each other depending how long you want them.

    The door is heavy though, and so far I've used 16mm fibre glass stove rope as a seal, but this is falling apart after a few weeks use - any better ideas would be welcome for this.

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  • Greenman
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    If you are thinking of using aluminium for your door as I did then you will be safe. Who would heat the oven to those temps and then put the door in place.

    Aluminium rivets work fine too, better to keep the metals similar. The temptation to overdesign/over specify projects is ever present and is often the difference between doing something easily and affordable and needing to mortgage the house and get an engineering degree to cook a pizza.

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  • mikku
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    What is the point of firing an oven to that temperature anyway? If you could, what are you going to cook? Use a little common sense and fire to the temperatures you need for your bake or roast--Don't need anything even close to the melting point of aluminum!

    If you are really worried, search the internet for tiles from the space shuttle, think that they are a special type of ceramic. But in the mean time, lets get back to earth!

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  • mrchipster
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    Originally posted by di11on View Post
    Hi folks,

    I'm looking at how to make my door.

    I see some people have used aluminium. I read that the melting point of aluminium is around 660 Celsius. Isn't that a little close to the temps we might get in our ovens? I'm not thinking of using sheet aluminium for the internal surface, but was considering using aluminium rivets.

    Any thoughts?
    Find some stainless rivets they are a little harder to pull but mine have held up real well for 2 years now.

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  • di11on
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    Hi folks,

    I'm looking at how to make my door.

    I see some people have used aluminium. I read that the melting point of aluminium is around 660 Celsius. Isn't that a little close to the temps we might get in our ovens? I'm not thinking of using sheet aluminium for the internal surface, but was considering using aluminium rivets.

    Any thoughts?

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  • oasiscdm
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    Originally posted by deejayoh View Post
    I think you want Borosilicate glass. It is pretty easy to find on ebay Borosilicate Glass Plate 150 mm x 150 mm x 5 mm Free Shipping | eBay and there are probably other suppliers too

    If you are using a pyrex pot lid - they stopped making that product out of Borosilicate in 1998 and switched to normal glass. So you need to find old stuff at a garage sale because modern pyrex is not heat safe.
    thx Dennis

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  • oasiscdm
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    had the same problem with my temp door covered in alfoil. Went to move it and guess what? all that was left was the foil no wood.

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  • pikemonkey
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    Just found this thread.
    Some terrific door ideas on here.
    This is the next step to my build.
    Got access to stainless steel, aluminium and good metalworking facilities at work.
    Thinking of an aluminum shell about 3 to 4" depth to encase offcuts of Calsil board and CF blanket.
    Flanged with 19mm fire rope fitted.
    I've got a nice bit of T+G Oak floorboard at home for the front.
    Also got some wrought iron decorative nails - might go for a "techno medievil" door.
    Knocked up a temporary door from some of the formwork last weekend (1st cooking)
    MDF covered in tin foil with some batten screwed on it. Went to pick it up on Monday and the top crumbled in my hand!!

    Rambling on, but also just wanted to bump this great thread, so i can find it easily.

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  • mrchipster
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    Mine is a newer pot lid and seems to work fine... But I only use it for baking (550F) or lower with no live fire. I use it all year and have baked bread when it is -10F outside. No problems so far.

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  • deejayoh
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    Originally posted by oasiscdm View Post
    Am looking for tempered glass as we speak no luck yet. But will persist
    I think you want Borosilicate glass. It is pretty easy to find on ebay Borosilicate Glass Plate 150 mm x 150 mm x 5 mm Free Shipping | eBay and there are probably other suppliers too

    If you are using a pyrex pot lid - they stopped making that product out of Borosilicate in 1998 and switched to normal glass. So you need to find old stuff at a garage sale because modern pyrex is not heat safe.

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